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what's up everybody

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happy wednesday we have a great show in

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store for you today that's right another

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great show um which we did have one

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yesterday with mr john ramirez if you

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caught that

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it's tomorrow i think thursday we have

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andy

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um from

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that ufo podcast and i'm really looking

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forward to having him too it's i mean

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he's been a guest before but it was

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it feels like so long ago even though it

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was probably

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four or five months ago but i feel like

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i've done this for a lifetime already

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with how many shows that i've done so

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um i'm very much looking forward to that

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but today

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um someone you may be familiar with if

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uh watch our nuap secrecy uh event it's

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mr baptiste

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um great guy um he is from

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france so

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um very much looking forward to that

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we're gonna highlight how

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well pretty much the show will highlight

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itself how this phenomenon is global

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it's not just the usa thing or

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north american it's all over the place

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so hopefully that will shed some light

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so but without further ado i'll bring in

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mr man co-host

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uh my wednesday friend

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mr j christopher king how are you

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i'm doing well sean it's uh good it's

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great to see you and um and i i like my

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new nickname mr wednesday friend that's

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that's uh

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my partner and i like creating um you

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know uh lame nicknames for each other

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you know like mr pete or mrs fingers or

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something like that so uh this is really

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nice to have this kind of situation

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where i've got a new nickname that is

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lame and terrible as mr wednesday friend

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but i'll take it i'll take it i was just

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gonna say what do you mean lame i mean

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amazing i mean

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i mean fantastic that's what i thought

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yeah and i'm looking forward to this i

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um batiste and tebow are significant

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figures and in french uh the french uap

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opportunity to be able to continue

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developing and evolving that dialogue uh

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with people like across the ocean yes

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very much and um just so you know the

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article that he just wrote for

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liberation times i put in the

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description for everybody so if you want

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to check that out i highly advise you do

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um and you know i'm just going to get

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right to it so we can start talking

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nickname i'll go with it

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so first of all we've got uh mr baptiste

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hello welcome my wisdom wednesday

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do you baptise do you want to give like

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a little introduction for uh depot

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very well known expert in the field in

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uh without further ado mr tebow how are

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liberation times which i know you both

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depot was uh mentioned quite a bit as a

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still classified and you know and that

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much so i guess tebow if you're okay let

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what keeps you ticking what makes you

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continue to investigate and what keeps

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institutions academic institutions

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universities and he was a first witness

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of that stigma in that context in this

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type of research academic research and

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for is to go beyond that stigma on an

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unexplored field

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wonderful and and tebow what what

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originally got you into being interested

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in the field of ufology uap research and

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find at the time around 200 books in

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total and then he started writing what

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he couldn't find and what information he

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what what do you find is the most

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underreported aspect

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the moon community

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historical aspect about this phenomenon

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primers but i i appreciate that you've

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a website and a youtube channel can you

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not be familiar with you or your work um

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so my my work started in 2017 in

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what were ufos and i did not have an

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and an unmonetized youtube channel

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i'm i'm employed by the state so i can

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this topic we don't have a permanent

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govern data and that is analyzing it

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looking for other sources constantly to

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cross-reference each information which

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bepti so do you find that um

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information it's really easy to find

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it's just insane the number of cases

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reported we have very

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little investigative reports but we have

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the problem is that there isn't a real

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database of french cases available

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publicly so to cross-reference each

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france's ufo investigation and uh in

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mentioned

292
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um

293
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that you are approached by a

294
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the director of guipan i believe

295
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and um could you please um for the

296
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audience

297
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let us know what is gaipan and what was

298
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the significance of that conversation

299
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that you had there

300
00:15:27,269 --> 00:15:24,800
so the

301
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we call it japan it's it's

302
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in the

303
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english

304
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saying

305
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the ipan is a public office so it

306
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doesn't deal with military cases it only

307
00:15:41,670 --> 00:15:39,120
takes care of civilian reports and

308
00:15:43,829 --> 00:15:41,680
some military police reports but

309
00:15:46,710 --> 00:15:43,839
these ones are very often

310
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versed to to the army instead of the

311
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japan

312
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the role of

313
00:15:54,870 --> 00:15:52,560
this public office is to answer the

314
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question of the public blake wants to

315
00:16:01,269 --> 00:15:57,759
know what is that what what did i saw

316
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and the work of japan is to work on that

317
00:16:04,710 --> 00:16:02,639
problem

318
00:16:07,430 --> 00:16:04,720
it's just a study group it's not a

319
00:16:09,829 --> 00:16:07,440
research group so they don't

320
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analyze the outcome of the data they

321
00:16:15,670 --> 00:16:13,040
just gather data and offer it publicly

322
00:16:17,990 --> 00:16:15,680
for scientific knowledge if scientists

323
00:16:19,590 --> 00:16:18,000
want to do the analysis so the problem

324
00:16:22,629 --> 00:16:19,600
we have in france is to have a

325
00:16:25,430 --> 00:16:22,639
laboratory that actually uses that data

326
00:16:30,230 --> 00:16:25,440
to find the answers but we have a very

327
00:16:33,509 --> 00:16:32,150
you got a follow-up go ahead

328
00:16:35,189 --> 00:16:33,519
sure um

329
00:16:40,470 --> 00:16:35,199
and and

330
00:16:45,749 --> 00:16:43,269
as a director named vincent costas right

331
00:16:47,269 --> 00:16:45,759
and what's the significance of of mr

332
00:16:48,790 --> 00:16:47,279
costas and

333
00:16:53,030 --> 00:16:48,800
uh you had a you had an important

334
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he's a brand new uh director of japan

335
00:17:02,230 --> 00:16:59,199
just entered functions uh

336
00:17:05,510 --> 00:17:02,240
two months ago uh so he's still in

337
00:17:08,309 --> 00:17:05,520
co-working with the previous director of

338
00:17:11,110 --> 00:17:08,319
japan so he's still learning a lot about

339
00:17:13,669 --> 00:17:11,120
the inner process so i have a meeting

340
00:17:17,990 --> 00:17:13,679
with him two months to do a follow-up on

341
00:17:21,189 --> 00:17:18,000
that interview with a more in-depth uh

342
00:17:23,909 --> 00:17:21,199
digging into the process of japan when

343
00:17:26,710 --> 00:17:23,919
he thinks he can master it

344
00:17:28,309 --> 00:17:26,720
and what really interested me that i was

345
00:17:30,549 --> 00:17:28,319
looking for scientific research by my

346
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contacts i knew really well

347
00:17:34,950 --> 00:17:33,360
the internal proceedings of the japan so

348
00:17:37,190 --> 00:17:34,960
i didn't contact them because they did

349
00:17:39,270 --> 00:17:37,200
not have the answers i were looking for

350
00:17:42,070 --> 00:17:39,280
but what really interested me is that

351
00:17:43,750 --> 00:17:42,080
they did the public office work

352
00:17:45,990 --> 00:17:43,760
they knew by

353
00:17:47,750 --> 00:17:46,000
other services i contacted inside the

354
00:17:50,789 --> 00:17:47,760
french state but i was looking for

355
00:17:54,390 --> 00:17:50,799
information they contacted me the the

356
00:17:56,150 --> 00:17:54,400
eye later in in japan means information

357
00:17:58,470 --> 00:17:56,160
they contained me to offer any

358
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information they could master on the

359
00:18:02,470 --> 00:18:00,880
subject so it wasn't what i was looking

360
00:18:05,350 --> 00:18:02,480
for but it was really interesting to

361
00:18:06,549 --> 00:18:05,360
test that aspect of the public office

362
00:18:08,950 --> 00:18:06,559
they really

363
00:18:11,190 --> 00:18:08,960
proactively acted to

364
00:18:12,830 --> 00:18:11,200
to meet me and to answer any question i

365
00:18:14,630 --> 00:18:12,840
could have on the

366
00:18:16,230 --> 00:18:14,640
subject

367
00:18:18,549 --> 00:18:16,240
just to kind of switch it up a little

368
00:18:20,230 --> 00:18:18,559
bit um i don't want you falling asleep

369
00:18:26,150 --> 00:18:20,240
tebow so

370
00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,990
i don't sleep i

371
00:18:35,590 --> 00:18:31,350
um

372
00:18:37,270 --> 00:18:35,600
studying ufos

373
00:18:38,310 --> 00:18:37,280
has it been

374
00:18:41,110 --> 00:18:38,320
um

375
00:18:44,630 --> 00:18:41,120
more difficult to

376
00:18:46,630 --> 00:18:44,640
um highlight the nuclear side of it

377
00:18:48,390 --> 00:18:46,640
seeing it as

378
00:19:11,220 --> 00:18:48,400
you know those records are hard to get

379
00:19:11,230 --> 00:19:36,830
[Music]

380
00:19:43,909 --> 00:19:41,270
oh so as a forward he wants to to really

381
00:19:45,669 --> 00:19:43,919
say that uh it's we are really

382
00:19:49,110 --> 00:19:45,679
interested but what is happening in the

383
00:19:50,830 --> 00:19:49,120
us in france because you you managed to

384
00:19:52,470 --> 00:19:50,840
to pull off

385
00:19:59,750 --> 00:19:52,480
uh

386
00:20:02,230 --> 00:19:59,760
york times articles by rafa bulanthal

387
00:20:03,909 --> 00:20:02,240
leslie keane and ellen cooper you you

388
00:20:07,270 --> 00:20:03,919
managed to

389
00:20:10,870 --> 00:20:07,280
on the planetary scale launch the ufo

390
00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:44,310
of course the problem is

391
00:20:58,630 --> 00:20:53,270
problem

392
00:21:01,510 --> 00:20:58,640
access the primary sources of each cases

393
00:21:03,990 --> 00:21:01,520
because the work of the japan has to be

394
00:21:12,070 --> 00:21:08,470
accurate so it has to anonymize and

395
00:21:14,549 --> 00:21:12,080
hide the location of the cases to

396
00:21:16,390 --> 00:21:14,559
public eyes so

397
00:21:18,390 --> 00:21:16,400
if you are inside the japan you can have

398
00:21:19,590 --> 00:21:18,400
access to this data you are validated by

399
00:21:21,350 --> 00:21:19,600
the states

400
00:21:22,470 --> 00:21:21,360
but there are very few scientists i

401
00:21:23,830 --> 00:21:22,480
think there's

402
00:21:25,909 --> 00:21:23,840
four scientists

403
00:21:27,110 --> 00:21:25,919
currently that are validated to access

404
00:21:29,110 --> 00:21:27,120
this data

405
00:21:31,270 --> 00:21:29,120
and otherwise if you are just a public

406
00:21:32,870 --> 00:21:31,280
researcher you you don't have the name

407
00:21:34,870 --> 00:21:32,880
the identity of the witness or the

408
00:21:37,990 --> 00:21:34,880
location of

409
00:21:43,270 --> 00:21:42,070
another problem is that the japan is the

410
00:21:45,909 --> 00:21:43,280
equivalent

411
00:21:48,230 --> 00:21:45,919
of the the nasa

412
00:21:51,190 --> 00:21:48,240
it's the national center for special

413
00:21:52,230 --> 00:21:51,200
studies it's a hall nazar

414
00:21:53,110 --> 00:21:52,240
and

415
00:21:55,270 --> 00:21:53,120
the

416
00:21:58,630 --> 00:21:55,280
uh

417
00:22:00,789 --> 00:21:58,640
the the the kness the national center

418
00:22:01,750 --> 00:22:00,799
for special studies

419
00:22:03,990 --> 00:22:01,760
is

420
00:22:05,669 --> 00:22:04,000
under

421
00:22:07,270 --> 00:22:05,679
the ministry of

422
00:22:10,870 --> 00:22:07,280
defense

423
00:22:16,630 --> 00:22:10,880
is

424
00:22:18,950 --> 00:22:16,640
and uh

425
00:22:22,470 --> 00:22:18,960
we don't have a fourier

426
00:22:24,710 --> 00:22:22,480
we don't have uh the the obligation to

427
00:22:28,390 --> 00:22:24,720
to give to the people

428
00:22:29,990 --> 00:22:28,400
the primary documents in france so uh

429
00:22:31,510 --> 00:22:30,000
you have some law

430
00:22:32,310 --> 00:22:31,520
uh who

431
00:22:34,630 --> 00:22:32,320
who

432
00:22:35,990 --> 00:22:34,640
will forbidden the access to these

433
00:22:38,870 --> 00:22:36,000
sources

434
00:22:41,110 --> 00:22:38,880
so it's a very difficult work

435
00:22:42,630 --> 00:22:41,120
of a contemporary

436
00:22:43,669 --> 00:22:42,640
history

437
00:22:49,990 --> 00:22:43,679
to to

438
00:22:52,830 --> 00:22:50,000
of this uh this phenomenon in france

439
00:22:55,110 --> 00:22:52,840
it's very uh

440
00:22:58,789 --> 00:22:55,120
uh the

441
00:22:59,510 --> 00:22:58,799
the japan has as a great reputation

442
00:23:00,549 --> 00:22:59,520
uh

443
00:23:01,350 --> 00:23:00,559
outside

444
00:23:02,710 --> 00:23:01,360
uh

445
00:23:04,870 --> 00:23:02,720
in the world

446
00:23:09,430 --> 00:23:04,880
leslie king talks about

447
00:23:10,390 --> 00:23:09,440
japan talks about cometar report another

448
00:23:12,630 --> 00:23:10,400
semi

449
00:23:13,669 --> 00:23:12,640
official studies

450
00:23:20,630 --> 00:23:13,679
in

451
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:26,950
because

452
00:23:32,310 --> 00:23:29,590
we have fewer

453
00:24:13,350 --> 00:23:32,320
data available than you can have in the

454
00:24:18,149 --> 00:24:15,909
so which is really interesting compared

455
00:24:20,789 --> 00:24:18,159
to france that the u.s give

456
00:24:22,070 --> 00:24:20,799
a lesson in democracy i can't find

457
00:24:22,870 --> 00:24:22,080
better sorry

458
00:24:25,430 --> 00:24:22,880
uh

459
00:24:28,070 --> 00:24:25,440
it's it's very much a public debate now

460
00:24:31,430 --> 00:24:30,310
civilian initiatives like the bin phenom

461
00:24:32,390 --> 00:24:31,440
basru

462
00:24:33,430 --> 00:24:32,400
reminisce

463
00:24:36,870 --> 00:24:33,440
and

464
00:24:39,590 --> 00:24:36,880
we can witness your congressmen taking

465
00:24:42,230 --> 00:24:39,600
part in the in the discussion and in the

466
00:24:45,190 --> 00:24:42,240
debate and taking instances publicly

467
00:24:46,630 --> 00:24:45,200
uh on the on that part

468
00:24:48,310 --> 00:24:46,640
yeah

469
00:24:51,750 --> 00:24:48,320
that's great um

470
00:24:53,190 --> 00:24:51,760
i one question is that um and please

471
00:24:54,070 --> 00:24:53,200
feel free to answer this however you'd

472
00:24:56,710 --> 00:24:54,080
like or

473
00:24:57,510 --> 00:24:56,720
whatever you feel is best um i realized

474
00:25:00,149 --> 00:24:57,520
that

475
00:25:02,230 --> 00:25:00,159
you know batiste you mentioned earlier

476
00:25:04,230 --> 00:25:02,240
that you have a public job um and so

477
00:25:06,549 --> 00:25:04,240
that you cannot you know you need to

478
00:25:08,070 --> 00:25:06,559
de-monetize your page because of your

479
00:25:11,590 --> 00:25:08,080
public work

480
00:25:13,350 --> 00:25:11,600
as an educator and tebow um works

481
00:25:15,990 --> 00:25:13,360
similarly

482
00:25:17,750 --> 00:25:16,000
not so differently as a librarian and so

483
00:25:19,269 --> 00:25:17,760
these are these are public facing

484
00:25:21,269 --> 00:25:19,279
education jobs

485
00:25:23,029 --> 00:25:21,279
essentially and do you do you find that

486
00:25:24,950 --> 00:25:23,039
there are particular challenges within

487
00:25:27,669 --> 00:25:24,960
french culture for yourselves in terms

488
00:25:28,789 --> 00:25:27,679
of in terms of um approaching the

489
00:25:29,990 --> 00:25:28,799
subject

490
00:25:33,350 --> 00:25:30,000
and

491
00:25:35,510 --> 00:25:33,360
do you do you find that that um

492
00:25:38,549 --> 00:25:35,520
do you need to be wary ever or are there

493
00:25:43,590 --> 00:25:40,710
is that for me for tibu um

494
00:25:45,669 --> 00:25:43,600
let's start with batista and then maybe

495
00:25:49,350 --> 00:25:45,679
uh so i have to be extremely worried by

496
00:25:52,710 --> 00:25:49,360
contract my french my

497
00:25:55,510 --> 00:25:52,720
freedom of speech is limited i uh

498
00:25:58,149 --> 00:25:55,520
all the time i represent the states in

499
00:26:00,230 --> 00:25:58,159
any public speech i take

500
00:26:02,950 --> 00:26:00,240
by law so i have to be extremely

501
00:26:05,190 --> 00:26:02,960
cautious but it's a very interesting

502
00:26:09,110 --> 00:26:05,200
break to my work because i have to be

503
00:26:12,390 --> 00:26:09,120
extremely sure of everything i say or i

504
00:26:15,510 --> 00:26:12,400
spread so it takes a lot of time but i

505
00:26:17,430 --> 00:26:15,520
think it's more tool than a real break

506
00:26:31,250 --> 00:26:17,440
on my on my work

507
00:26:31,260 --> 00:26:49,669
[Music]

508
00:27:36,389 --> 00:27:31,190
um

509
00:27:41,669 --> 00:27:39,269
so tebow is entirely uh free of his

510
00:27:43,990 --> 00:27:41,679
speech he

511
00:27:45,590 --> 00:27:44,000
so and in his works he has been

512
00:27:47,669 --> 00:27:45,600
extremely critical of the role of the

513
00:27:50,149 --> 00:27:47,679
japan

514
00:27:51,590 --> 00:27:50,159
towards public access to information

515
00:27:54,870 --> 00:27:51,600
and

516
00:27:56,460 --> 00:27:54,880
besides that as an educator

517
00:27:57,590 --> 00:27:56,470
he has a mission to

518
00:27:59,990 --> 00:27:57,600
[Music]

519
00:28:03,029 --> 00:28:00,000
gather collect and spread reliable

520
00:28:05,830 --> 00:28:03,039
informations and civilians have the

521
00:28:10,149 --> 00:28:05,840
rights to have access to rigorous data

522
00:28:15,269 --> 00:28:11,430
thank you so much

523
00:28:19,590 --> 00:28:17,110
i was reading that article a little bit

524
00:28:22,310 --> 00:28:19,600
and i noticed that

525
00:28:24,470 --> 00:28:22,320
there was an anybody can answer this and

526
00:28:31,190 --> 00:28:24,480
i noticed that there was

527
00:28:33,750 --> 00:28:31,200
um a wave of of ufos back in the 50s

528
00:28:35,750 --> 00:28:33,760
when that was happening

529
00:28:39,990 --> 00:28:35,760
was it

530
00:28:42,549 --> 00:28:40,000
that point at all

531
00:28:45,110 --> 00:28:42,559
is there any record of what people

532
00:28:46,630 --> 00:28:45,120
generally thought i know it was uh after

533
00:28:49,110 --> 00:28:46,640
world war ii

534
00:28:51,750 --> 00:28:49,120
and so you know they didn't want to

535
00:28:52,710 --> 00:28:51,760
cause panic so much by talking about it

536
00:28:54,549 --> 00:28:52,720
but

537
00:28:56,310 --> 00:28:54,559
um did the people know better did they

538
00:29:01,110 --> 00:28:56,320
have a sense of

539
00:29:04,789 --> 00:29:03,190
you know if and if so were reports from

540
00:29:08,060 --> 00:29:04,799
the united states carrying over the

541
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:08,070
friends of of ufos at all

542
00:29:17,850 --> 00:29:51,909
[Music]

543
00:29:51,919 --> 00:29:58,549
the grenade

544
00:30:04,710 --> 00:30:01,669
so in france we started looking to the

545
00:30:06,389 --> 00:30:04,720
subject publicly with press articles and

546
00:30:09,830 --> 00:30:06,399
investigation in

547
00:30:12,710 --> 00:30:09,840
1947 and the first

548
00:30:14,549 --> 00:30:12,720
ufo investigation group was created in

549
00:30:16,230 --> 00:30:14,559
1949

550
00:30:18,230 --> 00:30:16,240
you know it's funny i should i should

551
00:30:19,990 --> 00:30:18,240
tell you this that i have a blue book

552
00:30:22,710 --> 00:30:20,000
document

553
00:30:23,590 --> 00:30:22,720
where i think it's hynix saying that the

554
00:30:25,909 --> 00:30:23,600
first

555
00:30:29,269 --> 00:30:25,919
uh saucer report was actually in france

556
00:30:33,190 --> 00:30:30,630
i should find that for you i just

557
00:30:40,789 --> 00:30:33,200
thought of it so i wanted to say that

558
00:30:45,830 --> 00:30:42,710
we can access

559
00:30:48,870 --> 00:30:45,840
military french military data by uh

560
00:30:52,149 --> 00:30:48,880
requesting for your access to spy works

561
00:30:56,789 --> 00:30:55,110
really oh that is fascinating

562
00:30:58,870 --> 00:30:56,799
it's true in through in through the

563
00:31:01,110 --> 00:30:58,880
outdoor that's amazing

564
00:31:03,669 --> 00:31:01,120
that's fascinating

565
00:31:04,710 --> 00:31:03,679
wow i don't even know do you ever yeah

566
00:31:06,549 --> 00:31:04,720
go ahead

567
00:31:08,950 --> 00:31:06,559
regarding my uh

568
00:31:11,350 --> 00:31:08,960
my answer i would refer to that book by

569
00:31:14,630 --> 00:31:11,360
jimmy guyer it was published in uh

570
00:31:17,269 --> 00:31:14,640
flowers two term in 52 1 in 54 and at

571
00:31:19,830 --> 00:31:17,279
the time it clearly states that

572
00:31:23,029 --> 00:31:19,840
there is the

573
00:31:24,950 --> 00:31:23,039
the life magazine article major article

574
00:31:27,830 --> 00:31:24,960
with the statement of the air force at

575
00:31:30,389 --> 00:31:27,840
the time and that

576
00:31:32,549 --> 00:31:30,399
links together

577
00:31:35,909 --> 00:31:32,559
the united states and france

578
00:31:39,669 --> 00:31:35,919
in in his point of view and in uh

579
00:31:41,590 --> 00:31:39,679
archives i found i found that in 55

580
00:31:44,870 --> 00:31:41,600
there was already reference to

581
00:31:47,029 --> 00:31:44,880
australian cases similar to french cases

582
00:31:47,909 --> 00:31:47,039
in public newspaper at the time so it

583
00:31:51,590 --> 00:31:47,919
was

584
00:31:56,310 --> 00:31:51,600
very really aware that advertised

585
00:31:58,549 --> 00:31:56,320
wonderful um and along these lines

586
00:32:00,710 --> 00:31:58,559
another question about

587
00:32:02,230 --> 00:32:00,720
historical cases before we go into the

588
00:32:05,350 --> 00:32:02,240
very juicy

589
00:32:07,669 --> 00:32:05,360
and palpable uh present and future of

590
00:32:09,990 --> 00:32:07,679
ufology um

591
00:32:11,269 --> 00:32:10,000
what uh this just for context for the

592
00:32:13,269 --> 00:32:11,279
audience and things like that and so

593
00:32:16,149 --> 00:32:13,279
that they get a sense of you in general

594
00:32:17,509 --> 00:32:16,159
um what are your favorite cases um

595
00:32:19,190 --> 00:32:17,519
they don't have to be french they could

596
00:32:21,430 --> 00:32:19,200
be anything like what what do you think

597
00:32:23,830 --> 00:32:21,440
are the most fruitful cases to have

598
00:32:24,870 --> 00:32:23,840
studied yourselves over they have to be

599
00:32:29,350 --> 00:32:24,880
french

600
00:32:32,549 --> 00:32:29,360
they have to be

601
00:32:36,710 --> 00:32:35,269
i think about a case who is not really

602
00:32:54,630 --> 00:32:36,720
french because

603
00:32:54,640 --> 00:33:07,070
uh

604
00:33:36,710 --> 00:33:15,130
[Music]

605
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:57,660
uh

606
00:33:57,670 --> 00:34:02,149
[Music]

607
00:34:02,159 --> 00:34:06,710
foreign

608
00:34:11,750 --> 00:34:08,790
so regarding his favorite historical

609
00:34:13,510 --> 00:34:11,760
cases it would be in madagascar in 1954

610
00:34:15,750 --> 00:34:13,520
so at the time madagascar was a french

611
00:34:17,669 --> 00:34:15,760
colony and

612
00:34:19,109 --> 00:34:17,679
currently it works in english

613
00:34:20,790 --> 00:34:19,119
yes

614
00:34:23,270 --> 00:34:20,800
and it was

615
00:34:26,470 --> 00:34:23,280
a full daylight

616
00:34:28,069 --> 00:34:26,480
observation of a flying disc

617
00:34:31,669 --> 00:34:28,079
luminescence

618
00:34:33,750 --> 00:34:31,679
it was hovering above the main street of

619
00:34:37,109 --> 00:34:33,760
the main city of madagascar i don't know

620
00:34:37,119 --> 00:34:43,430
sorry

621
00:34:44,250 --> 00:34:43,990
thank you

622
00:34:47,270 --> 00:34:44,260
[Music]

623
00:34:49,270 --> 00:34:47,280
[Laughter]

624
00:34:52,869 --> 00:34:49,280
and it was witnessed by andreas people

625
00:34:56,470 --> 00:34:52,879
and as it was uh crossing the street uh

626
00:34:59,589 --> 00:34:56,480
along the way it was uh

627
00:35:02,630 --> 00:34:59,599
extinguishing every light of the streets

628
00:35:06,470 --> 00:35:02,640
on the wall tracks it was carrying the

629
00:35:08,390 --> 00:35:06,480
castle away while the cattle was

630
00:35:11,270 --> 00:35:08,400
accustomed to

631
00:35:13,510 --> 00:35:11,280
the airplanes because the airport was

632
00:35:17,589 --> 00:35:13,520
was really close it's a it's a

633
00:35:18,690 --> 00:35:17,599
fascinating case for general dougal

634
00:35:20,069 --> 00:35:18,700
who was a

635
00:35:22,150 --> 00:35:20,079
[Music]

636
00:35:24,790 --> 00:35:22,160
major figure at the time historically

637
00:35:28,790 --> 00:35:24,800
and in political power

638
00:35:31,750 --> 00:35:28,800
and was a very huge case but

639
00:35:34,550 --> 00:35:31,760
he concur with me there is um a

640
00:35:36,710 --> 00:35:34,560
tremendous amount of cases in france who

641
00:35:38,630 --> 00:35:36,720
have been um

642
00:35:41,430 --> 00:35:38,640
really

643
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:46,470
being the witness of of cases

644
00:35:53,349 --> 00:35:50,150
great and you and yourself atis

645
00:35:54,910 --> 00:35:53,359
so i'm i'm looking to a very weird case

646
00:36:00,550 --> 00:35:54,920
it's the

647
00:36:02,150 --> 00:36:00,560
1974 flap in in the winter of 1974

648
00:36:03,109 --> 00:36:02,160
in the

649
00:36:04,630 --> 00:36:03,119
above

650
00:36:07,910 --> 00:36:04,640
western coast of

651
00:36:09,670 --> 00:36:07,920
france you have a wave of sighting

652
00:36:12,950 --> 00:36:09,680
at least 15

653
00:36:15,109 --> 00:36:12,960
in in two months and one above an

654
00:36:20,470 --> 00:36:15,119
aircraft carrier

655
00:36:29,589 --> 00:36:24,829
really really intriguing reports with

656
00:36:33,750 --> 00:36:29,599
usos uh with uh giant orbs flying

657
00:36:36,950 --> 00:36:33,760
really really close of military assets

658
00:36:37,910 --> 00:36:36,960
and major military assets at the time

659
00:36:40,470 --> 00:36:37,920
france

660
00:36:42,710 --> 00:36:40,480
always tried to maintain

661
00:36:46,069 --> 00:36:42,720
a political power

662
00:36:48,630 --> 00:36:46,079
based on military power we wanted to be

663
00:36:49,990 --> 00:36:48,640
in the independent from nato

664
00:36:51,990 --> 00:36:50,000
so

665
00:36:53,910 --> 00:36:52,000
our military assets were really

666
00:36:56,950 --> 00:36:53,920
important to the country so to have

667
00:36:58,470 --> 00:36:56,960
search reports from military police

668
00:37:02,390 --> 00:36:58,480
on that case

669
00:37:06,790 --> 00:37:04,470
very intriguing i

670
00:37:07,510 --> 00:37:06,800
i got one thing that i want to show you

671
00:37:09,190 --> 00:37:07,520
that

672
00:37:11,030 --> 00:37:09,200
baptiste might actually already know

673
00:37:13,829 --> 00:37:11,040
about but i found this in the blue book

674
00:37:18,150 --> 00:37:16,200
yeah it says france there

675
00:37:20,550 --> 00:37:18,160
[Laughter]

676
00:37:23,670 --> 00:37:20,560
it says france

677
00:37:25,670 --> 00:37:23,680
it says french flag saucer so yeah

678
00:37:29,750 --> 00:37:25,680
it's it's it's a pretty neat picture but

679
00:37:31,589 --> 00:37:29,760
i just wanted to show that to you but um

680
00:37:33,190 --> 00:37:31,599
i did

681
00:37:34,230 --> 00:37:33,200
have a question like

682
00:37:37,030 --> 00:37:34,240
you know

683
00:37:39,109 --> 00:37:37,040
this is kind of more speculation based

684
00:37:40,310 --> 00:37:39,119
and i know people don't like that

685
00:37:42,950 --> 00:37:40,320
um

686
00:37:44,710 --> 00:37:42,960
but that's half the fun to me

687
00:37:45,910 --> 00:37:44,720
but um

688
00:37:47,670 --> 00:37:45,920
do you have a

689
00:37:49,990 --> 00:37:47,680
and this is for both of you

690
00:37:53,750 --> 00:37:50,000
do you have a general feeling of if

691
00:37:56,390 --> 00:37:53,760
these are physical objects or

692
00:37:58,069 --> 00:37:56,400
not and

693
00:37:59,109 --> 00:37:58,079
i guess the second part of that question

694
00:38:01,109 --> 00:37:59,119
is

695
00:38:03,349 --> 00:38:01,119
do you feel that

696
00:38:05,829 --> 00:38:03,359
a paranormal

697
00:38:08,069 --> 00:38:05,839
other paranormal things are you know

698
00:38:10,230 --> 00:38:08,079
attached to ufos or

699
00:38:11,190 --> 00:38:10,240
are those separate what's your take on

700
00:38:13,109 --> 00:38:11,200
that

701
00:38:58,069 --> 00:38:13,119
you know like i don't know even ghosts

702
00:38:58,079 --> 00:39:49,930
foreign

703
00:39:49,940 --> 00:39:55,030
[Music]

704
00:39:55,040 --> 00:40:34,470
uh

705
00:40:45,109 --> 00:40:38,950
so

706
00:40:47,990 --> 00:40:45,119
i think it's still accurate today uh the

707
00:40:50,870 --> 00:40:48,000
the exploratory or hypothesis uh was

708
00:40:54,630 --> 00:40:50,880
taking very little literally it's

709
00:40:57,270 --> 00:40:54,640
visitors from other planetary systems

710
00:40:58,950 --> 00:40:57,280
exploring away and we encounter them for

711
00:41:01,750 --> 00:40:58,960
the first time

712
00:41:03,589 --> 00:41:01,760
then arrived jack valley that

713
00:41:05,030 --> 00:41:03,599
for the first time

714
00:41:06,950 --> 00:41:05,040
proposed that

715
00:41:08,630 --> 00:41:06,960
it was an illusion that was another

716
00:41:10,550 --> 00:41:08,640
phenomenon and

717
00:41:12,390 --> 00:41:10,560
that very

718
00:41:14,390 --> 00:41:12,400
evident phenomenon everybody could

719
00:41:16,309 --> 00:41:14,400
reduce

720
00:41:20,630 --> 00:41:16,319
today he thinks that

721
00:41:22,710 --> 00:41:20,640
that hypothesis a secondary phenomenon

722
00:41:26,069 --> 00:41:22,720
a puppeteer

723
00:41:27,270 --> 00:41:26,079
is a is no mainstream

724
00:41:29,349 --> 00:41:27,280
and

725
00:41:31,670 --> 00:41:29,359
we have

726
00:41:33,190 --> 00:41:31,680
confirmed comforting

727
00:41:35,670 --> 00:41:33,200
coincidences

728
00:41:38,069 --> 00:41:35,680
correlation between

729
00:41:39,910 --> 00:41:38,079
experiences testimonies and near-death

730
00:41:43,030 --> 00:41:39,920
experience

731
00:41:45,589 --> 00:41:43,040
records that are very similar

732
00:41:47,750 --> 00:41:45,599
in in terms of nature of

733
00:41:49,589 --> 00:41:47,760
the stories that are narrated through

734
00:41:53,270 --> 00:41:49,599
these experiences

735
00:41:56,069 --> 00:41:53,280
he thinks that it's a hint towards a new

736
00:41:58,150 --> 00:41:56,079
law of physics towards consciousness

737
00:41:59,349 --> 00:41:58,160
but he doesn't have any certainty about

738
00:42:00,550 --> 00:41:59,359
it

739
00:42:03,670 --> 00:42:00,560
all right

740
00:42:05,190 --> 00:42:03,680
what do you mean you're not certain

741
00:42:08,230 --> 00:42:05,200
excellent thank you that's a great

742
00:42:10,550 --> 00:42:08,240
response yeah and definitely and batiste

743
00:42:13,270 --> 00:42:10,560
some uh similar question

744
00:42:16,470 --> 00:42:13,280
so i have to to to restrict myself to

745
00:42:19,510 --> 00:42:16,480
what is scientifically demonstrated so

746
00:42:21,510 --> 00:42:19,520
we know there are some physical

747
00:42:22,230 --> 00:42:21,520
crafts because we can gather pieces of

748
00:42:26,230 --> 00:42:22,240
it

749
00:42:29,190 --> 00:42:26,240
be no pieces and jack valley just

750
00:42:31,430 --> 00:42:29,200
published a scientific paper on a new

751
00:42:34,470 --> 00:42:31,440
method to

752
00:42:37,990 --> 00:42:34,480
buy high-end beam technology

753
00:42:39,109 --> 00:42:38,000
analyze isotope ratios at a

754
00:42:41,270 --> 00:42:39,119
nano

755
00:42:42,829 --> 00:42:41,280
molecular scale so

756
00:42:46,790 --> 00:42:42,839
we

757
00:42:49,430 --> 00:42:46,800
know material pieces that are recovered

758
00:42:52,150 --> 00:42:49,440
so there are material crafts it's it's

759
00:42:54,470 --> 00:42:52,160
very obvious now

760
00:42:56,550 --> 00:42:54,480
are they all physical probably not

761
00:42:59,270 --> 00:42:56,560
because we have plenty of records of

762
00:43:01,750 --> 00:42:59,280
orbs of light that go through matter

763
00:43:04,950 --> 00:43:01,760
so it starts to to become pretty hard to

764
00:43:07,670 --> 00:43:04,960
have a physical craft doing that so not

765
00:43:10,870 --> 00:43:07,680
every cases is physical not every cases

766
00:43:13,670 --> 00:43:10,880
it is non-physical

767
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:13,680
concerning the the origin

768
00:43:18,870 --> 00:43:14,210
um

769
00:43:23,270 --> 00:43:20,630
the problem is that

770
00:43:27,190 --> 00:43:23,280
it seems to to change

771
00:43:31,270 --> 00:43:27,200
uh along the way with us so if you take

772
00:43:33,990 --> 00:43:31,280
the 1952 washington causal case it's

773
00:43:35,829 --> 00:43:34,000
you can't be more obvious than that you

774
00:43:37,990 --> 00:43:35,839
have flying saucers

775
00:43:40,950 --> 00:43:38,000
above the white house that are shoot

776
00:43:42,790 --> 00:43:40,960
down by fighters you have pieces

777
00:43:46,309 --> 00:43:42,800
gathered on the ground and transmitted

778
00:43:48,950 --> 00:43:46,319
to experts including canada so

779
00:43:51,829 --> 00:43:48,960
you can't be more obvious than that and

780
00:43:53,990 --> 00:43:51,839
it's all in public records it's all very

781
00:43:57,510 --> 00:43:54,000
verifiable it's just what i call the

782
00:44:00,069 --> 00:43:57,520
hidden story that it's not taught so

783
00:44:02,550 --> 00:44:00,079
it's hidden but everything is there and

784
00:44:05,190 --> 00:44:02,560
if you look for it you you found it oh i

785
00:44:09,829 --> 00:44:06,790
so

786
00:44:12,790 --> 00:44:09,839
if you look at today's cases

787
00:44:14,950 --> 00:44:12,800
they are much more elusive when they

788
00:44:16,630 --> 00:44:14,960
appear they disappear

789
00:44:18,470 --> 00:44:16,640
just next to it

790
00:44:20,550 --> 00:44:18,480
they if you don't have a battle of los

791
00:44:22,710 --> 00:44:20,560
angeles nowadays

792
00:44:25,510 --> 00:44:22,720
it just doesn't happen

793
00:44:28,870 --> 00:44:25,520
you you we will nuke them out of the sky

794
00:44:32,069 --> 00:44:28,880
if they do they did that so

795
00:44:33,510 --> 00:44:32,079
the fact that it is evolving along the

796
00:44:36,870 --> 00:44:33,520
way

797
00:44:40,309 --> 00:44:36,880
is a proof a scientific proof to me that

798
00:44:43,589 --> 00:44:40,319
is just not explorers meeting us it

799
00:44:46,230 --> 00:44:43,599
can't be it there is something else what

800
00:44:48,710 --> 00:44:46,240
it is i don't know i

801
00:44:51,589 --> 00:44:48,720
think the only obvious answer is that it

802
00:44:53,910 --> 00:44:51,599
is a light show it is a spectacle for us

803
00:44:56,309 --> 00:44:53,920
it is something that is shown to us

804
00:44:58,069 --> 00:44:56,319
why it is shown to us i don't know and i

805
00:44:58,950 --> 00:44:58,079
think it's a very interesting question

806
00:44:59,670 --> 00:44:58,960
to ask

807
00:45:01,670 --> 00:44:59,680
us

808
00:45:04,710 --> 00:45:01,680
the answer will not come from them it

809
00:45:06,230 --> 00:45:04,720
will come from us yeah

810
00:45:08,550 --> 00:45:06,240
that's a great answer

811
00:45:11,270 --> 00:45:08,560
and i've thought about that often too

812
00:45:13,190 --> 00:45:11,280
especially the evolving with us

813
00:45:14,309 --> 00:45:13,200
you know if you just ask the simple

814
00:45:16,950 --> 00:45:14,319
question

815
00:45:17,829 --> 00:45:16,960
where are the flying

816
00:45:20,230 --> 00:45:17,839
yeah saucers

817
00:45:23,510 --> 00:45:20,240
know if you saw one now it would seem

818
00:45:24,870 --> 00:45:23,520
like an old 50s uh mustang

819
00:45:27,589 --> 00:45:24,880
you know car

820
00:45:29,030 --> 00:45:27,599
it would seem like a classic automobile

821
00:45:30,230 --> 00:45:29,040
um and

822
00:45:32,470 --> 00:45:30,240
you know things

823
00:45:33,750 --> 00:45:32,480
things change and there's no mass

824
00:45:35,349 --> 00:45:33,760
sightings

825
00:45:37,430 --> 00:45:35,359
and why is that

826
00:45:39,510 --> 00:45:37,440
you know maybe because it's evolved with

827
00:45:42,390 --> 00:45:39,520
us it's become more elusive

828
00:45:44,630 --> 00:45:42,400
or it's uh you know and it could be for

829
00:45:47,349 --> 00:45:44,640
many reasons maybe because

830
00:45:49,349 --> 00:45:47,359
it can be more easily recorded you know

831
00:45:50,950 --> 00:45:49,359
with their phones

832
00:45:53,750 --> 00:45:50,960
or

833
00:45:55,109 --> 00:45:53,760
maybe the technology is advanced

834
00:45:57,829 --> 00:45:55,119
you know

835
00:45:58,790 --> 00:45:57,839
if if they're much more advanced than we

836
00:46:00,230 --> 00:45:58,800
are

837
00:46:02,870 --> 00:46:00,240
you would have to think that their

838
00:46:06,630 --> 00:46:02,880
advancements in technology would be

839
00:46:11,430 --> 00:46:08,470
lex friedman did

840
00:46:12,790 --> 00:46:11,440
just said an incredibly powerful quote

841
00:46:15,109 --> 00:46:12,800
the other day

842
00:46:17,910 --> 00:46:15,119
he said that he was really fearful of

843
00:46:20,470 --> 00:46:17,920
the fact that if the aliens they are

844
00:46:23,190 --> 00:46:20,480
much more smarter than us and we just

845
00:46:39,589 --> 00:46:23,200
don't have the capability to

846
00:46:39,599 --> 00:47:23,250
um

847
00:48:03,990 --> 00:47:38,510
[Music]

848
00:48:08,630 --> 00:48:06,550
yeah i was going to say the same thing

849
00:48:09,829 --> 00:48:08,640
[Laughter]

850
00:48:12,790 --> 00:48:09,839
gotcha

851
00:48:17,030 --> 00:48:14,549
so um

852
00:48:19,109 --> 00:48:17,040
in his current

853
00:48:21,510 --> 00:48:19,119
state of mind he thinks that

854
00:48:24,230 --> 00:48:21,520
if we had to encounter

855
00:48:27,109 --> 00:48:24,240
an exogenous civilization we will have a

856
00:48:29,270 --> 00:48:27,119
major communication problem there is an

857
00:48:32,950 --> 00:48:29,280
interesting

858
00:48:35,829 --> 00:48:32,960
story by stanislas slam and

859
00:48:38,710 --> 00:48:35,839
puts into a movie by tarkovsky called

860
00:48:41,670 --> 00:48:38,720
solaris but i highly recommend a very

861
00:48:44,150 --> 00:48:41,680
good movie and very good book the book

862
00:48:47,190 --> 00:48:44,160
is just terrible

863
00:48:48,790 --> 00:48:47,200
read that book read that book you will

864
00:48:52,950 --> 00:48:48,800
understand everything that is happening

865
00:48:57,109 --> 00:48:54,390
by stanislas

866
00:48:59,510 --> 00:48:57,119
very short book but excellent book

867
00:49:01,510 --> 00:48:59,520
uh and the history of all that we just

868
00:49:03,030 --> 00:49:01,520
can't understand each other because we

869
00:49:04,870 --> 00:49:03,040
are just too different

870
00:49:07,670 --> 00:49:04,880
there is another possibility that they

871
00:49:08,390 --> 00:49:07,680
don't want to talk to us they just want

872
00:49:11,510 --> 00:49:08,400
to

873
00:49:14,150 --> 00:49:11,520
take a look at us from afar and see how

874
00:49:16,150 --> 00:49:14,160
we react and just go away

875
00:49:19,349 --> 00:49:16,160
he says that there is an interesting

876
00:49:21,109 --> 00:49:19,359
quote by the recent quote by vale

877
00:49:22,950 --> 00:49:21,119
that said that

878
00:49:25,670 --> 00:49:22,960
we are seeing

879
00:49:29,510 --> 00:49:25,680
a picture projected by someone but we

880
00:49:33,349 --> 00:49:31,190
and we are getting closer

881
00:49:36,390 --> 00:49:33,359
that is fantastic yes and i agree about

882
00:49:39,349 --> 00:49:36,400
solaris as particularly the tarkovsky it

883
00:49:40,470 --> 00:49:39,359
was remade um maybe 10 15 years ago but

884
00:49:52,309 --> 00:49:40,480
the original yeah

885
00:49:57,750 --> 00:49:55,430
yeah the original the original but um

886
00:49:59,750 --> 00:49:57,760
and this is where we will have to have a

887
00:50:02,150 --> 00:49:59,760
follow-up because we all know that

888
00:50:04,950 --> 00:50:02,160
french people are notorious

889
00:50:06,950 --> 00:50:04,960
uh cinephiles and love film you know

890
00:50:09,750 --> 00:50:06,960
that is that is quite the serious type

891
00:50:11,829 --> 00:50:09,760
for french culture um but um i i love

892
00:50:15,589 --> 00:50:11,839
that film and i think that it's so

893
00:50:17,030 --> 00:50:15,599
appropriate and it's one of the best

894
00:50:20,710 --> 00:50:17,040
depictions

895
00:50:23,349 --> 00:50:20,720
of of the phenomenon that is closest to

896
00:50:25,589 --> 00:50:23,359
experience or counts often with regard

897
00:50:27,430 --> 00:50:25,599
to you know not saying anything is true

898
00:50:28,950 --> 00:50:27,440
or not saying anything is false but when

899
00:50:32,230 --> 00:50:28,960
we read the accounts of people like

900
00:50:33,589 --> 00:50:32,240
whitley strieber and others you know um

901
00:50:36,150 --> 00:50:33,599
there's there's

902
00:50:38,069 --> 00:50:36,160
there's the idea of this kind of hall of

903
00:50:40,390 --> 00:50:38,079
mirrors where

904
00:50:43,030 --> 00:50:40,400
where often um

905
00:50:45,190 --> 00:50:43,040
these other intelligences are are

906
00:50:46,309 --> 00:50:45,200
possibly pulling from our subconscious

907
00:50:55,430 --> 00:50:46,319
trying to

908
00:50:56,230 --> 00:50:55,440
serene anything like that and i

909
00:51:04,309 --> 00:50:56,240
i

910
00:51:08,710 --> 00:51:04,319
that

911
00:51:10,790 --> 00:51:08,720
supposed to make us feel better

912
00:51:12,790 --> 00:51:10,800
it can make us anxious

913
00:51:16,150 --> 00:51:12,800
as when the protagonist meets his dead

914
00:51:18,470 --> 00:51:16,160
wife right off in space somewhere right

915
00:51:19,750 --> 00:51:18,480
no spoilers but um

916
00:51:21,349 --> 00:51:19,760
i think it's on the back of the video

917
00:51:24,309 --> 00:51:21,359
box so i think that that's safe to talk

918
00:51:27,030 --> 00:51:25,589
um

919
00:51:28,710 --> 00:51:27,040
anyway i don't know if that needs to be

920
00:51:30,710 --> 00:51:28,720
communicated but

921
00:51:33,589 --> 00:51:30,720
i think he gets the gist of the picture

922
00:51:35,589 --> 00:51:33,599
but i'm looking forward you know um

923
00:51:37,430 --> 00:51:35,599
you know we have a lot of recent stories

924
00:51:39,349 --> 00:51:37,440
and you know we've got this uap task

925
00:51:40,470 --> 00:51:39,359
force report in the states and i know

926
00:51:42,470 --> 00:51:40,480
that you've been

927
00:51:44,950 --> 00:51:42,480
baptiste and tebow i know that you've

928
00:51:46,950 --> 00:51:44,960
been you've been helping in terms of of

929
00:51:49,270 --> 00:51:46,960
getting things published by you know in

930
00:51:51,589 --> 00:51:49,280
liberation times and keeping us up to

931
00:51:54,069 --> 00:51:51,599
speed and i see through the explorer lab

932
00:51:55,349 --> 00:51:54,079
channel that you're also doing a lot in

933
00:51:57,750 --> 00:51:55,359
terms of

934
00:52:00,710 --> 00:51:57,760
i saw that very good recap that you did

935
00:52:02,150 --> 00:52:00,720
of of the the year in review for for

936
00:52:04,470 --> 00:52:02,160
2021

937
00:52:06,069 --> 00:52:04,480
and um looking forward to this next year

938
00:52:09,190 --> 00:52:06,079
what like what are you looking forward

939
00:52:11,190 --> 00:52:09,200
to in terms of recent reports and recent

940
00:52:12,870 --> 00:52:11,200
news and um

941
00:52:14,710 --> 00:52:12,880
you know i know that you probably don't

942
00:52:17,349 --> 00:52:14,720
want to speculate too much though that

943
00:52:20,630 --> 00:52:17,359
is a you know a favorite past time

944
00:52:22,790 --> 00:52:20,640
a favorite pastime of ufologist but um

945
00:52:25,829 --> 00:52:22,800
you know maybe a better way to put it is

946
00:52:30,710 --> 00:52:25,839
what do you hope to see in 2022 and what

947
00:52:36,950 --> 00:52:33,190
does that make sense yes yes yes just

948
00:52:40,150 --> 00:52:39,270
in in 22 we went to see the disclosure

949
00:52:43,030 --> 00:52:40,160
in

950
00:52:45,510 --> 00:52:43,040
united states because if there is a real

951
00:52:48,470 --> 00:52:45,520
disclosure in the united states

952
00:52:51,190 --> 00:52:48,480
all the world will follow it's like that

953
00:52:53,430 --> 00:52:51,200
you have a very good you you have a very

954
00:52:54,309 --> 00:52:53,440
great import importance

955
00:52:56,950 --> 00:52:54,319
in

956
00:52:57,750 --> 00:52:56,960
with this question

957
00:52:59,270 --> 00:52:57,760
so

958
00:53:01,030 --> 00:52:59,280
we expect

959
00:53:03,430 --> 00:53:01,040
for this year

960
00:53:04,790 --> 00:53:03,440
disclosure in the united states it's no

961
00:53:06,069 --> 00:53:04,800
pressure

962
00:53:07,829 --> 00:53:06,079
it's not grown

963
00:53:08,870 --> 00:53:07,839
but it's

964
00:53:12,630 --> 00:53:08,880
it's my

965
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:17,070
is

966
00:53:17,080 --> 00:54:45,670
[Music]

967
00:54:51,190 --> 00:54:49,190
so he expects a free publication but he

968
00:54:53,030 --> 00:54:51,200
wants you would like you would really

969
00:54:55,349 --> 00:54:53,040
really would like to see free

970
00:54:59,190 --> 00:54:55,359
publications happening

971
00:55:00,870 --> 00:54:59,200
next year it would be uh

972
00:55:03,109 --> 00:55:00,880
satellite pictures

973
00:55:05,349 --> 00:55:03,119
of ufos it was

974
00:55:06,630 --> 00:55:05,359
evocated by

975
00:55:08,630 --> 00:55:06,640
general cliff

976
00:55:11,109 --> 00:55:08,640
former gni

977
00:55:14,390 --> 00:55:11,119
under trump if i remember well

978
00:55:17,349 --> 00:55:14,400
the next thing would be

979
00:55:19,829 --> 00:55:17,359
nasa's documents about ufo that

980
00:55:21,190 --> 00:55:19,839
administrator bill nyson refused to talk

981
00:55:23,730 --> 00:55:21,200
about

982
00:55:25,910 --> 00:55:23,740
and the next part would be

983
00:55:27,750 --> 00:55:25,920
[Music]

984
00:55:30,950 --> 00:55:27,760
the next part of the new york times

985
00:55:35,109 --> 00:55:30,960
articles concerning

986
00:55:36,950 --> 00:55:35,119
capture and study of recovered crafts

987
00:55:39,270 --> 00:55:36,960
and

988
00:55:43,190 --> 00:55:39,280
the making of their world crafts based

989
00:55:46,470 --> 00:55:44,390
excellent

990
00:55:48,549 --> 00:55:46,480
yeah do you follow up there

991
00:55:51,030 --> 00:55:48,559
i was just going to ask if that

992
00:55:53,910 --> 00:55:51,040
from batista perspective

993
00:55:58,069 --> 00:55:53,920
i'm very down to earth so i'm expecting

994
00:56:00,789 --> 00:55:58,079
the results from the uapx today uh i'm

995
00:56:02,150 --> 00:56:00,799
ex i'm really expecting the next works

996
00:56:04,710 --> 00:56:02,160
of christopher shaw but i have to

997
00:56:07,589 --> 00:56:04,720
comment for his work half the articles i

998
00:56:10,230 --> 00:56:07,599
wrote were wrote by him i provided the

999
00:56:13,270 --> 00:56:10,240
data and he assembled everything under

1000
00:56:15,349 --> 00:56:13,280
the shape you can read so he

1001
00:56:17,190 --> 00:56:15,359
did a tremendous work

1002
00:56:18,470 --> 00:56:17,200
on that and he

1003
00:56:21,349 --> 00:56:18,480
is spending

1004
00:56:24,309 --> 00:56:21,359
every ounce of time he has on liberation

1005
00:56:26,309 --> 00:56:24,319
times so i highly recommend that

1006
00:56:27,990 --> 00:56:26,319
you you take your close look at

1007
00:56:30,230 --> 00:56:28,000
everything that has been published for

1008
00:56:32,390 --> 00:56:30,240
the past three months it's really

1009
00:56:33,990 --> 00:56:32,400
interesting but there are hidden gems

1010
00:56:36,549 --> 00:56:34,000
inside

1011
00:56:39,109 --> 00:56:36,559
and the the next

1012
00:56:40,230 --> 00:56:39,119
really interesting part would be

1013
00:56:45,670 --> 00:56:40,240
we

1014
00:56:47,109 --> 00:56:45,680
crystal clear

1015
00:56:49,430 --> 00:56:47,119
video of

1016
00:56:53,510 --> 00:56:49,440
a black triangle getting out of the

1017
00:56:58,230 --> 00:56:55,910
oh my gosh please please

1018
00:57:00,309 --> 00:56:58,240
does anyone even know where that got

1019
00:57:01,750 --> 00:57:00,319
started

1020
00:57:03,589 --> 00:57:01,760
oh well

1021
00:57:05,589 --> 00:57:03,599
i mean

1022
00:57:07,190 --> 00:57:05,599
elizondo mentioned i think elizondo

1023
00:57:09,670 --> 00:57:07,200
might have been the one the first to go

1024
00:57:12,549 --> 00:57:09,680
on the record about it but i i think i'd

1025
00:57:13,990 --> 00:57:12,559
i'd heard about it elsewhere from well

1026
00:57:15,829 --> 00:57:14,000
maybe i shouldn't mention but there's

1027
00:57:16,710 --> 00:57:15,839
other people

1028
00:57:18,390 --> 00:57:16,720
yeah

1029
00:57:19,910 --> 00:57:18,400
but there's been a quiet rumor about

1030
00:57:22,069 --> 00:57:19,920
that for a few years now at the very

1031
00:57:23,990 --> 00:57:22,079
least yeah

1032
00:57:26,789 --> 00:57:24,000
do you think there would be any pushback

1033
00:57:28,549 --> 00:57:26,799
in france if uh you know from the

1034
00:57:29,750 --> 00:57:28,559
government or

1035
00:57:31,190 --> 00:57:29,760
the people

1036
00:57:33,670 --> 00:57:31,200
um if

1037
00:57:35,109 --> 00:57:33,680
you know let's say president biden comes

1038
00:57:36,069 --> 00:57:35,119
and says okay

1039
00:57:37,990 --> 00:57:36,079
um

1040
00:57:40,950 --> 00:57:38,000
you know there are intergalactic

1041
00:57:43,990 --> 00:57:40,960
visitors here and have been here

1042
00:57:45,750 --> 00:57:44,000
for a very long time for decades

1043
00:57:47,750 --> 00:57:45,760
and we're going to start

1044
00:57:48,710 --> 00:57:47,760
adjusting policies

1045
00:57:51,349 --> 00:57:48,720
for

1046
00:57:53,750 --> 00:57:51,359
interplanetary and space reasons

1047
00:57:56,870 --> 00:57:53,760
do you think france would follow in suit

1048
00:58:05,589 --> 00:57:56,880
in that or would they give pushback or

1049
00:58:05,599 --> 00:58:30,470
express extraterrestrials

1050
00:59:55,430 --> 00:58:44,350
[Music]

1051
00:59:59,270 --> 00:59:56,820
all right

1052
01:00:01,510 --> 00:59:59,280
[Laughter]

1053
01:00:02,789 --> 01:00:01,520
thank you thank you so much

1054
01:00:05,190 --> 01:00:02,799
so um

1055
01:00:07,510 --> 01:00:05,200
so firstly we'd be very astonished by

1056
01:00:10,470 --> 01:00:07,520
the fact that biden uh

1057
01:00:13,430 --> 01:00:10,480
actually speaks uh talks about this

1058
01:00:17,349 --> 01:00:13,440
uh because it has been very silent and

1059
01:00:19,910 --> 01:00:17,359
we really appreciated his his laugh when

1060
01:00:23,349 --> 01:00:19,920
he answered a question regarding anna

1061
01:00:26,549 --> 01:00:23,359
obama quotes on the subject and when he

1062
01:00:28,950 --> 01:00:26,559
tried to run off the stage

1063
01:00:30,150 --> 01:00:28,960
without his partner if you haven't seen

1064
01:00:33,190 --> 01:00:30,160
that clip

1065
01:00:36,870 --> 01:00:33,200
priceless

1066
01:00:38,549 --> 01:00:36,880
uh so then france is uh often

1067
01:00:38,900 --> 01:00:38,559
pictured as

1068
01:00:40,309 --> 01:00:38,910
um

1069
01:00:42,390 --> 01:00:40,319
[Music]

1070
01:00:44,549 --> 01:00:42,400
claiming to the word what the word

1071
01:00:46,789 --> 01:00:44,559
should do and

1072
01:00:48,549 --> 01:00:46,799
taking a leadership position where we

1073
01:00:50,789 --> 01:00:48,559
have a much

1074
01:00:53,349 --> 01:00:50,799
smaller a much smaller

1075
01:00:57,430 --> 01:00:53,359
smaller firepower than the united states

1076
01:00:59,990 --> 01:00:57,440
um and uh so we will take a stance on

1077
01:01:03,670 --> 01:01:00,000
that subject if biden take a stance on

1078
01:01:06,789 --> 01:01:03,680
that subject just to not let biden alone

1079
01:01:09,270 --> 01:01:06,799
and to have a say in the process and

1080
01:01:13,750 --> 01:01:12,309
france is much smaller we have uh

1081
01:01:16,150 --> 01:01:13,760
some uh

1082
01:01:27,589 --> 01:01:16,160
lawmakers uh

1083
01:01:35,190 --> 01:01:31,109
think of a way of legalizing aliens

1084
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:39,589
beautiful

1085
01:01:44,870 --> 01:01:41,510
and batiste

1086
01:01:49,109 --> 01:01:47,510
there are some precedents in the in the

1087
01:01:51,109 --> 01:01:49,119
french spy works

1088
01:01:54,789 --> 01:01:51,119
um

1089
01:01:57,430 --> 01:01:54,799
i think it was under mitra

1090
01:01:59,670 --> 01:01:57,440
a a socialist

1091
01:02:04,309 --> 01:01:59,680
french president uh

1092
01:02:07,750 --> 01:02:04,319
one um one russian spy defected and

1093
01:02:08,789 --> 01:02:07,760
worked for us for quite a few years and

1094
01:02:09,910 --> 01:02:08,799
leaked

1095
01:02:12,069 --> 01:02:09,920
very

1096
01:02:13,029 --> 01:02:12,079
major information

1097
01:02:15,990 --> 01:02:13,039
um

1098
01:02:18,710 --> 01:02:16,000
mitron was so afraid it would leak that

1099
01:02:23,109 --> 01:02:18,720
only two people in france worked on that

1100
01:02:23,340 --> 01:02:23,119
in sale and he used it to

1101
01:02:24,630 --> 01:02:23,350
to

1102
01:02:27,430 --> 01:02:24,640
[Music]

1103
01:02:30,950 --> 01:02:27,440
to hint to the us that he had a very

1104
01:02:32,230 --> 01:02:30,960
in-depth knowledge of their own

1105
01:02:33,029 --> 01:02:32,240
war machines

1106
01:02:35,430 --> 01:02:33,039
so

1107
01:02:37,670 --> 01:02:35,440
i it's perfectly feasible that we have a

1108
01:02:39,670 --> 01:02:37,680
very small team in france that know

1109
01:02:41,270 --> 01:02:39,680
extremely well what is happening is

1110
01:02:46,069 --> 01:02:41,280
working on the craft

1111
01:02:51,109 --> 01:02:48,789
because the past speaks for it it was

1112
01:02:53,750 --> 01:02:51,119
not the first time it happened so i

1113
01:02:54,630 --> 01:02:53,760
wouldn't be surprised that in

1114
01:02:56,390 --> 01:02:54,640
very

1115
01:02:58,549 --> 01:02:56,400
high circles they they know perfectly

1116
01:03:00,710 --> 01:02:58,559
what is happening the second part that

1117
01:03:03,029 --> 01:03:00,720
is pushing me towards it is that the

1118
01:03:06,470 --> 01:03:03,039
japan is the public office but above it

1119
01:03:09,109 --> 01:03:06,480
you have the copipan that is the um what

1120
01:03:11,990 --> 01:03:09,119
you add in the giliban naman man the the

1121
01:03:15,029 --> 01:03:12,000
art caviar scientific advisory panel

1122
01:03:19,270 --> 01:03:15,039
we have that in france and we know that

1123
01:03:20,150 --> 01:03:19,280
the very interesting uh reports uap d2

1124
01:03:22,230 --> 01:03:20,160
class

1125
01:03:25,109 --> 01:03:22,240
are pushed above

1126
01:03:26,950 --> 01:03:25,119
to the ielts stances and was publicly

1127
01:03:28,710 --> 01:03:26,960
explained by jacques valle in a in a

1128
01:03:32,309 --> 01:03:28,720
recent interview

1129
01:03:33,270 --> 01:03:32,319
so we know these files go somewhere when

1130
01:03:36,309 --> 01:03:33,280
they are

1131
01:03:39,910 --> 01:03:36,319
completely analyzed and determined as

1132
01:03:44,309 --> 01:03:42,309
yeah that kind of gives it a special

1133
01:03:46,549 --> 01:03:44,319
status

1134
01:03:48,870 --> 01:03:46,559
doesn't it yes

1135
01:03:51,190 --> 01:03:48,880
it's it's a kind of chinese politics

1136
01:03:52,230 --> 01:03:51,200
the chinese won't say anything but the

1137
01:03:55,430 --> 01:03:52,240
day

1138
01:03:57,829 --> 01:03:55,440
the u.s will show we have

1139
01:03:59,510 --> 01:03:57,839
an anonymous craft the chinese would say

1140
01:04:01,829 --> 01:03:59,520
but we already have five what do you

1141
01:04:03,910 --> 01:04:01,839
what are you talking about

1142
01:04:05,670 --> 01:04:03,920
it's the same way with the french

1143
01:04:08,069 --> 01:04:05,680
yeah

1144
01:04:09,750 --> 01:04:08,079
beautiful

1145
01:04:11,430 --> 01:04:09,760
well let's see we're

1146
01:04:14,309 --> 01:04:11,440
towards the end of the hour already

1147
01:04:16,470 --> 01:04:14,319
which is amazing um yeah do you ha do

1148
01:04:18,309 --> 01:04:16,480
you have a last question sean or

1149
01:04:21,270 --> 01:04:18,319
anything that you'd like to

1150
01:04:23,349 --> 01:04:21,280
no the only thing i would say is um this

1151
01:04:26,470 --> 01:04:23,359
isn't the only time that you guys stop

1152
01:04:28,390 --> 01:04:26,480
by here hopefully i'd like you to return

1153
01:04:29,589 --> 01:04:28,400
and continue the

1154
01:04:31,670 --> 01:04:29,599
discourse

1155
01:04:33,109 --> 01:04:31,680
um i think the more we can make this

1156
01:04:36,309 --> 01:04:33,119
kind of stuff

1157
01:04:38,549 --> 01:04:36,319
um like a global partnership i think the

1158
01:04:40,390 --> 01:04:38,559
more better off that will be you know if

1159
01:04:41,349 --> 01:04:40,400
we're in this together

1160
01:04:43,190 --> 01:04:41,359
um

1161
01:04:45,349 --> 01:04:43,200
i think we can spread awareness better

1162
01:04:47,109 --> 01:04:45,359
that way and so in that

1163
01:04:49,910 --> 01:04:47,119
you know thank you for taking time out

1164
01:04:52,309 --> 01:04:49,920
of your day to come to this lowly show

1165
01:04:55,029 --> 01:04:52,319
and and doing this uh with me because i

1166
01:04:56,950 --> 01:04:55,039
certainly do appreciate it

1167
01:04:58,390 --> 01:04:56,960
and you know look up to you guys for

1168
01:05:00,309 --> 01:04:58,400
your courage

1169
01:05:04,069 --> 01:05:00,319
in doing what you do

1170
01:05:06,150 --> 01:05:04,079
in such a you know highly stigmatized

1171
01:05:07,910 --> 01:05:06,160
country for it

1172
01:05:08,630 --> 01:05:07,920
i think a lot of us here in america kind

1173
01:05:10,390 --> 01:05:08,640
of

1174
01:05:12,549 --> 01:05:10,400
take it for granted

1175
01:05:14,309 --> 01:05:12,559
um sometimes and i

1176
01:05:16,390 --> 01:05:14,319
you know we think there is stigma but

1177
01:05:18,309 --> 01:05:16,400
yet we can have these youtube channels

1178
01:05:20,630 --> 01:05:18,319
and go out in public and have twitter

1179
01:05:23,029 --> 01:05:20,640
accounts and and not really have to

1180
01:05:23,910 --> 01:05:23,039
worry you don't really have to worry you

1181
01:05:25,270 --> 01:05:23,920
know

1182
01:05:27,589 --> 01:05:25,280
um

1183
01:05:31,029 --> 01:05:27,599
and it's not like that everywhere

1184
01:05:33,270 --> 01:05:31,039
so i think you know one at one of these

1185
01:05:34,630 --> 01:05:33,280
you know the show also hopefully uh to

1186
01:05:37,029 --> 01:05:34,640
some people who watch it it'll be

1187
01:05:37,990 --> 01:05:37,039
highlighted um you know how good we do

1188
01:05:40,069 --> 01:05:38,000
have it

1189
01:05:40,870 --> 01:05:40,079
you know in that regard and but with

1190
01:05:41,990 --> 01:05:40,880
that

1191
01:05:43,589 --> 01:05:42,000
um

1192
01:05:47,109 --> 01:05:43,599
it comes

1193
01:05:48,390 --> 01:05:47,119
a sense of responsibility to to take it

1194
01:05:49,589 --> 01:05:48,400
even farther

1195
01:05:51,589 --> 01:05:49,599
you know

1196
01:05:53,510 --> 01:05:51,599
so

1197
01:05:55,190 --> 01:05:53,520
that's about it

1198
01:05:57,670 --> 01:05:55,200
yeah

1199
01:05:59,430 --> 01:05:57,680
and and i'm portuguese so i'm i'm

1200
01:06:01,109 --> 01:05:59,440
portuguese so i'm closer to you than you

1201
01:06:02,150 --> 01:06:01,119
think

1202
01:06:03,270 --> 01:06:02,160
that's true

1203
01:06:08,789 --> 01:06:03,280
um

1204
01:06:10,230 --> 01:06:08,799
are there anything

1205
01:06:11,589 --> 01:06:10,240
anything before we get out here that

1206
01:06:12,789 --> 01:06:11,599
that you would like to express to the

1207
01:06:15,750 --> 01:06:12,799
audience here

1208
01:06:17,990 --> 01:06:15,760
and also um where can we find you online

1209
01:06:29,430 --> 01:06:18,000
so that we can continue the conversation

1210
01:06:29,440 --> 01:07:13,870
please

1211
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:26,870
[Music]

1212
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:36,710
facebook

1213
01:07:41,670 --> 01:07:39,349
so you can reach out to

1214
01:07:43,270 --> 01:07:41,680
chibo on facebook under his true name

1215
01:07:44,630 --> 01:07:43,280
tbo kennedy

1216
01:07:46,150 --> 01:07:44,640
and you can address any question you

1217
01:07:48,549 --> 01:07:46,160
have

1218
01:07:51,750 --> 01:07:48,559
he recommends two

1219
01:07:56,870 --> 01:07:54,710
french independent media

1220
01:07:58,309 --> 01:07:56,880
a mine explorer lab and the maybe

1221
01:07:59,910 --> 01:07:58,319
planets

1222
01:08:01,670 --> 01:07:59,920
years

1223
01:08:03,670 --> 01:08:01,680
fantastic

1224
01:08:05,510 --> 01:08:03,680
i love explorer lab i've been i've

1225
01:08:06,710 --> 01:08:05,520
become a big fan

1226
01:08:07,510 --> 01:08:06,720
wonderful

1227
01:08:09,510 --> 01:08:07,520
well

1228
01:08:11,750 --> 01:08:09,520
thank you both so much this has been

1229
01:08:15,430 --> 01:08:11,760
absolutely incredible and

1230
01:08:18,149 --> 01:08:15,440
uh i i just want to echo sean and uh

1231
01:08:21,110 --> 01:08:18,159
in redundancy and say uh what a pleasure

1232
01:08:22,789 --> 01:08:21,120
it is to have you both here today and uh

1233
01:08:25,110 --> 01:08:22,799
what a pleasure

1234
01:08:27,110 --> 01:08:25,120
it is to develop this conversation and

1235
01:08:29,669 --> 01:08:27,120
we'd love to have you back in the future

1236
01:08:31,430 --> 01:08:29,679
to continue uh to explore these

1237
01:08:32,709 --> 01:08:31,440
conversations

1238
01:08:39,510 --> 01:08:32,719
thank you very much

1239
01:08:44,070 --> 01:08:41,349
we have friends jesus

1240
01:08:46,390 --> 01:08:44,080
we have plenty of french cases

1241
01:08:48,149 --> 01:08:46,400
all right fair enough all right

1242
01:08:52,709 --> 01:08:48,159
all right take care guys

1243
01:08:57,430 --> 01:08:54,870
all right fantastic stuff

1244
01:08:58,630 --> 01:08:57,440
absolutely wonderful um yeah i had a

1245
01:09:01,590 --> 01:08:58,640
great time

1246
01:09:04,070 --> 01:09:01,600
that's awesome yeah i feel like uh

1247
01:09:05,430 --> 01:09:04,080
it was a wonderful a wonderful it was a

1248
01:09:07,590 --> 01:09:05,440
a wonderful follow-up to having

1249
01:09:08,470 --> 01:09:07,600
christopher on last week

1250
01:09:15,349 --> 01:09:08,480
and

1251
01:09:17,510 --> 01:09:15,359
other compatriots join us for the nwap

1252
01:09:18,829 --> 01:09:17,520
secrecy panel it's nice to just be able

1253
01:09:23,269 --> 01:09:18,839
to focus

1254
01:09:25,189 --> 01:09:23,279
on batista and tebow and be able to

1255
01:09:26,870 --> 01:09:25,199
explore explore this conversation a

1256
01:09:28,950 --> 01:09:26,880
little bit more don't you think yeah

1257
01:09:31,110 --> 01:09:28,960
totally and i thought it went well i

1258
01:09:32,789 --> 01:09:31,120
thought it went fantastic so

1259
01:09:34,630 --> 01:09:32,799
um

1260
01:09:35,510 --> 01:09:34,640
you know i can't wait to have have them

1261
01:09:37,669 --> 01:09:35,520
back

1262
01:09:39,110 --> 01:09:37,679
um our next what's our next show that we

1263
01:09:41,590 --> 01:09:39,120
have booked together

1264
01:09:44,229 --> 01:09:41,600
let's see the next one we have booked is

1265
01:09:45,189 --> 01:09:44,239
uh leslie kane on the 26th which is

1266
01:09:47,829 --> 01:09:45,199
going to be

1267
01:09:49,510 --> 01:09:47,839
absolutely amazing i love leslie i know

1268
01:09:50,789 --> 01:09:49,520
you love leslie

1269
01:09:52,470 --> 01:09:50,799
we're both

1270
01:09:55,110 --> 01:09:52,480
card-carrying members of the leslie kane

1271
01:09:56,229 --> 01:09:55,120
fan club so that'll be great

1272
01:10:00,950 --> 01:09:56,239
and

1273
01:10:03,510 --> 01:10:00,960
to say that we have a surprise guest for

1274
01:10:05,669 --> 01:10:03,520
next week oh we'll explore well we'll

1275
01:10:07,270 --> 01:10:05,679
explore who that surprise guest is that

1276
01:10:09,189 --> 01:10:07,280
surprise guest might even be a surprise

1277
01:10:11,750 --> 01:10:09,199
to us at this point but we'll see

1278
01:10:14,229 --> 01:10:11,760
right right right right yeah yeah yeah

1279
01:10:17,270 --> 01:10:14,239
okay well this sounds good i had a great

1280
01:10:19,030 --> 01:10:17,280
time with you sir and we will see you

1281
01:10:20,229 --> 01:10:19,040
a week from today

1282
01:10:21,510 --> 01:10:20,239
absolutely

1283
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:21,520
thanks everyone